Penn State Scandal: Mother of Alleged Victim Says Son Was Afraid to Tell Sandusky 'No'

The mother of the boy who triggered the investigation into Jerry Sandusky's alleged child sex assaults says that during the years of abuse the boy suffered he felt he didn't have the power to say no to the former Penn State football coach.

Speaking exclusively with George Stephanopoulos on ABC News' "Good Morning America" the mother of the boy, who is referred to in court papers as Victim 1, describes how she learned of the abuse and how her son lived in fear of coming forward to implicate a football coaching legend.

"I had said, 'You know, maybe we should have come to this conclusion earlier -- you should have told me,'" the mother, whose name is being withheld, said she told her son. "He was like, 'Well, I didn't know what to do … you just can't tell Jerry no.'"

Sandusky, now 67, would often have the boy stay at his home after they met when he was 11 in 2005 through the Second Mile program, which the coach founded for at-risk youth. According to the grand jury investigation, Sandusky "indecently fondled Victim 1 on a number of occasions, performed oral sex on Victim 1 on a number of occasions and had Victim 1 perform oral sex on him on at least one occasion."

In the interview, the boy's mother discusses how she gradually became aware of the abuse her son was suffering at Sandusky's hands. Her boy would act out violently to intentionally become grounded and avoid seeing Sandusky, she says, and at one point he came to her saying he wanted to know how to look up information on sex offenders.

"[I] proceeded to ask him if there was something he needed to tell me, if there was something going on … it wasn't 'til a month later when he indicated he was uncomfortable with leaving the school with him, and [Sandusky] pulling him out of classes at school," she said.

According to the grand jury presentment that led to Sandusky's arrest last week on 40 counts of molesting eight boys over a 15-year period, the coach had unfettered access to the Clinton County high school attended by Victim 1. Sandusky, who volunteered at the school's varsity football program, would often have unmonitored meetings with the boy. On one occasion a school wrestling coach witnessed inappropriate touching between the two in a secluded weight room, according to the grand jury presentment.

Read the entire grand jury presentment.

Though she was unable to get any direct answers from her son by prodding him about Sandusky's behavior, the boy's mother expressed her concerns to the school, who in turn spoke with the boy. She was quickly called to the school where she learned more about the situation.

"I'm infuriated … Even if they had the slightest inclination that anything inappropriate was going on it should have been reported, or at least brought to my attention," she said. "I didn't even know he was leaving the school with my child, taking him out of classes. They never told me that."

The school's assistant principal told the grand jury that Sandusky was barred from the school district as soon as the mother had expressed concern about the coach's relationship with her son.

Throughout the course of the investigation and through testimony from her son, the boy's mother has learned what allegedly happened between her boy and Sandusky while he would sleep at the coach's home.

The boy testified that when staying in Sandusky's basement, the coach would come down and get into bed, crawling underneath him and running his arms up and down the boy's back to "crack" it. He testified that this led to further inappropriate touching during the summer of 2005 through 2006, when he was in seventh grade. This soon led to inappropriate sexual contact.

"I was horrified. I was absolutely horrified," Victim 1's mother said. "I knew some details but I didn't know that it was that, I didn't know it was that bad. It's caused a lot of nightmares, for him and I both."

'They All Need to be Gone'

The boy's mother says that she does believe that Penn State head coach Joe Paterno had a moral responsibility to take action once he heard of Sandusky's alleged assault, and agrees that he should have been fired for his silence.

"I think if he had any inclination of this, he may have done what he legally needed to do, but there's got to be some moral bearing, in my opinion. Yes, they all needed to be gone," she said. "The people that hid this need to pay for their actions. They allowed this to happen to a lot of kids."

Though court records indicate that the boy's mother placed one call to Sandusky's cell phone between January 2008 and July 2009 -- after she learned of his alleged abuse -- she told ABC News that she never confronted him.

"The amount of anger that I feel is probably not a good thing, and I've kept my distance. At one point I thought I'd just like to ask him why, why he did this, why he used all these kids and this charity," she said, adding that she believes that the abuse goes far beyond the eight boys that have been identified in the grand jury report as Sandusky's victims.

"I think there's other kids out there, and probably adults at this time. I hope they're brave enough to come forward and stand with us to help for the children ... There's so many years that he was involved in this organization, and so many years that he had access to these children, and I don't believe that it stops at eight," she said.

Her son, she said, does not like to talk openly about what happened -- even with her, though she says their relationship is close. He is a brave kid, she says, and while he wishes the best for Penn State, he is very concerned about this sort of abuse not happening to other children.

"He's doing ok, he's handling it. He's kind of relieved that [Sandusky] was charged finally … It's kind of overwhelming for all of us. We expected it would get big, but we never expected it would be this bad, and so many people covering it up," she said.

"He's a brave kid," she added. "And he'll do whatever it takes to make sure this doesn't happen again."

As for her, she wants Sandusky to pay for his alleged crimes.

"I want justice. I want him to be locked up," she said. "There's no help for someone who does this. Not like this. He needs to be put away. He needs to be put away for a long time."

ABC News' George Stephanopoulos contributed to this report

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5,720 comments

  • Tracy  •  6 months ago
    If a grown man wants your child to spend the night with him, thats a RED FLAG!
    If a grown man gives your child lavish gifts, thats a RED FLAG.
    Wake up parents, protect your kids.
    • Peter M 6 months ago
      Spot on perfect advice. Some parents are idiots - they must have their head below...
    • J Chavez 6 months ago
      That's exactly right. But some parents refuse to see what is in front of their very eyes. "Mr. Sandusky is personally mentoring my boy. I am a lucky parent"
    • Dollarsines 6 months ago
      Yes, it is a red flag. But this was a child being invited to a family home, with a husband and wife, and other kids...and a child who apparently was in a single parent situation, a member of an organization for kids who perhaps don't have a father figure at home. Even the gifts...a wealthy man, who sees a kid who doesn't have as much because of tough circumstances...and agian, who is not just someone off the streets, but a key figure in what was a respected organization for at risk kids and an apparent upstanding member of the community. So seeing your kid getting to be part of a family weekend is less of a red flag. Being mentored by a coach at a respected institution, included in activities like going to ball games I have to wonder what Sandusky's wife was doing through all of this.

      I will also say it is terrible, and Sandusky betrayed the trust of parents, the organization, the children, and everything/everyone he came in contact with. But another travesty from this is that Sandusky's actions taint the efforts of others who reach out to at-risk kids with all the right motivations, and make a positive difference in the lives of these kids. I was at an awards dinner recently when grown man after grown man got up and talked about what a tremendous positive difference the individual being honored had made in each of their childhood...for taking them to ball games, on family picnics, just hanging out and giving them someone to talk to..
  • Phil  •  6 months ago
    You see someone abusing a child and your inclination is to report it to your bosse? Seriously, how is that a 'normal' reaction. Wouldn't most sane people remove the child and call the police after beating the crap out of this freak?
    • call_me_the_breeze 6 months ago
      a REAL man would have stopped the act while it was happening
    • shaunM 6 months ago
      I am so glad you said that!!! I would still be beating the #$%$ out of that guy!!! They would have had to pay me to stop.
    • mina 6 months ago
      IT IS THE LAW IN THE STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA!!!!!! PLEASE NOTE THIS IS A STATE RUN INSTITUTION AND WHISTLEBLOWER LAWS IN PENN MANDATE THIS PROCEDURE! WOW, YOU KNOW WITHIN SECONDS OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF THIS CRIME ALL EVIDENCE WAS GONE, CONFISCATED, OR "TAKEN CARE OF" OF PENN STATE. MCQUERY WAS A 25 YEAR OLD RECENT GRAD AND FOOTBALL PLAYER.
  • "Pipes"  •  6 months ago
    My heart goes out to the victim and his mother. Having gone through this myself I can only say that there are some rough times ahead. Love your son and let him know that he didn't do anything wrong. Set up counseling for both of you and let him know he is a victim of a serial predator and he did the right thing coming forward in his own time. This is a difficult personal decision and your son is very brave. I commend him.
    • 9erluvr 6 months ago
      In the mother's interview this morning on GMA, she did put some of the blame on her son by saying he should have come to her sooner. Blaming the victim just makes it worst. Thank you for your post and sharing your experience.
    • knowledge and wisdom 6 months ago
      child molesters should be given the death penalty,they destroy peoples lives and are a menice to our society
    • Jola 6 months ago
      VICTIMS!!!
  • ShadowCaptain  •  6 months ago
    The one thing you hear about prison life is that inmates do NOT like child molesters. This guy in in big trouble if he is convicted.
    • DAVID 6 months ago
      A huge myth. Number one he will be seperated from the general population. Number two the people in prison are not nice, there are plenty of child molestors,rapists, murderers there. It's just an urban myth that Prisoners go after a child molestor.I worked in a prison loaded with molestors and they were not special targets. The reality is he will live his days reading and eating off taxpayor money.
    • whatsamattawitchyou 6 months ago
      He will have a bounty on him. Guys will whack him to make a name for themselves.
    • Joe 6 months ago
      "IF" he's convicted. I'd say that's a certainty now.
  • Jim  •  6 months ago
    message to 'victim' #1: you're not a victim. You are a survivor. You should be proud of yourself, and KNOW that it was NOT your fault.
    • Big Lee 6 months ago
      As to whether he is a victim or not is an open question. But, what he is in either case is a hero for coming forward! The scum at PSU needed to be stopped.
    • Molly 6 months ago
      I understand where you're coming from, Jim, but people do have the right to define for themselves how they're referred to. I don't know if this young man thinks of himself as a victim or a survivor or something else, but if it turns out that he chooses to refer to himself as a victim, that is his choice.
    • Mille Lacs Area Pages 6 months ago
      Allowing yourself to be categorized as a victim makes you a victim. Having been sexually assualted by a "loving, respectful" grandfather from diaper stage to about eight years old - I had plenty of issues, plenty of rage, plenty of acting out, but was unable to talk to my family because we simply never talked about those parts of the body. My right to say NO was trained right out of me at a very early age. Am I a victim today? Hell no. But I sure had some hard lessons to learn through my teens and early adulthood. I am a survivor, I am forever scarred, but my scars do not define me.
  • John  •  6 months ago
    People can scream about sandusky and paterno.......what about the school letting a kid go out of class with someone that wasn't a parent and with no permission and not informing the parents as well as the wrestling coach that "saw inappropriate touching" and also did nothing about it as well....Keep digging and there may be a lot more found as well!!
  • raymond b  •  6 months ago
    What kind of man who is 28yrs old witnesses a 10yr old getting raped walks away? Then him and his dad tell Paterno the next day and Joe just passes it on. They take Sandusky's keys and the next few yrs they allow him to continue working with kids. They are all guiltyof assisting any abuse from that day on and they all should go to jaIL.
  • Leah  •  6 months ago
    My heart goes out to these families. I am currently dealing with a similar issue, Although the abuser of my children was not a famous football coach, so unfortunately it is taking a very long time. Still, I am relieved for these children to not be subject to this monster anymore. What a courageous young man to step forward. It is not easy. Stay strong!
  • Zeke Dog  •  6 months ago
    I know how this kid feels. Having been the vitcum of sexual abuse as a kid I relate. You feel all the guilt the monster who abused you should feel, but he doesn't.
    god bless you young man. I am 65 and the scar always remains. Joe Paterno and the rest of you PSU authority, remember what you have let happen in the name of a game called football.
  • Bill  •  6 months ago
    I believe the entire Board of Trustees should be removed as well. Everyone there knew everyone else so to think that these crimes were not known by all is ridicilous. Everyone there helped cover this up for money, plain and simple. The Board had to approve of Sandusky's deal when they let him go with such a nice golden parachute. Time for a clean sweep. Everyone must go and be punished. Off to jail with the whole lot of them. And I hope the parents sue everyone of them individually and the school as well.
  • DavidO  •  6 months ago
    McQueary should be ashamed for not doing more. Oh yeah, fire him too!
  • P.J.G.B.  •  6 months ago
    Now that more ACTUAL facts are coming out, it is beginning to sound like HALF THE POPULATION in and around the campas knew something was going on !!!!
    So much for considering Penn State for my grandchildren and in my will !!!
    And a missing DA to boot.
  • Rick  •  6 months ago
    McQueary should resign - man up -
  • Love it or leave it  •  6 months ago
    They all should have done more. How about stopping it while it was occurring, where's these big tough football types balls? There was a wrestling coach, a football coach, a janitor and no one said "hey man what the hells going on, I'm calling the police"? All afraid of their jobs and don't want to make waves, and then the big suits try to keep it secret? simply AMAZING STUPIDITY & ARROGANCE.
  • Cheryl  •  6 months ago
    The reason the high school gave him full access to the kids was because he was a Penn State football coach...who everyone treated like GODS!! Everyone involved in this should be GONE! FIRED! AND PROSECUTED!
  • Vanessa  •  6 months ago
    How can a person, see a child being hurt and walk away? to see something like that and do nothing to help the child... McQueary is as guilty as Sandusky
  • Lisa  •  6 months ago
    When the grad student heard the "slapping" you know anal sex with the 10 year old. Im still confused as to why he didnt run into the shower and say OMG little boy are you ok do you know this man? Did he assume the 10 year old was Sanduskys boyfriend.. You know they were in the middle of sex...
  • OBJECTIVE TRUTH  •  6 months ago
    AN 11-YEAR-OLD WAS ALLOWED TO "SLEEP OVER" AT A 50-YEAR-OLD MAN'S HOUSE? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!
  • Trex  •  6 months ago
    Glad this kid has the guts to come forward wonder how many other kids this #$%$ bag molested with Joe Pa and the Penn State administration covering it up to save face think of all the kids, And why does McQueary still have a job Penn State???
  • Donald A. G  •  6 months ago
    The fear to say No. Heard these stories before. And then for his behavior to change. Sandusky is nothing less than a monster. Needs to be put in jail for life. And PSU the more you read there were plenty of rumors. They need a clear cleaning of house. Everyone who even had the littlest of knowledge. The more you hear and read churns your stomach. Adults who did absolutely nothing to protect children.